00:15:38 Chris Taylor, President OPCUG: Welcome to all members and guests! Guests, if you want to join, see https://opcug.ca/join-or-renew/ Want to present at Q&A? Give us your material and we can create slides, or we have a PowerPoint template you can download and use: https://opcug.ca/downloads/Q&A-Template.potx Send in questions, shares, etc SuggestionBox@opcug.ca 00:15:58 Kal_Somo DPCUC: Blue Chevron gone, . . . easy as pie ! 00:17:00 Chris Taylor, President OPCUG: How Passkeys Work - no-tech version https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6Q-Q3rqmrk 00:17:21 Chris Taylor, President OPCUG: Best Free Software https://ca.pcmag.com/software-services/15040/the-best-free-software-66-outstanding-picks-curated-by-our-editors 00:18:13 Chris Taylor, President OPCUG: I followed ChatGPT’s PC Build Guide https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6MAZW-joCo 00:19:43 Chris Taylor, President OPCUG: The amazing story of the OpenAI – Hugging Face attack https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2aw3MF8pY3w (19 minutes) https://openai.com/index/hugging-face-incident-and-the-road-ahead/ A reasonable person's guide to how AI destroys humanity (14 minutes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPgwnUr1sbE Black Hat presentation by OpenAI (38 minutes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87DyyMV0kCY Why the Hugging Face Attack Was Worse Than We Thought (1 hour, 15 minutes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtmUbZRCpEI METR report (91 pages) https://metr.org/hugging-face-incident-report-aug-2026.pdf This might be the clearest warning shot we ever get (2 hours, 20 minutes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X50zezLFWWI AI Agents explained (21 minutes) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvDkJsKE80k 00:19:50 Tom Trottier: Artificial Stupidity 00:24:25 Tom Trottier: In a first for Google, the company confirmed that its AI model, Gemini, breached the security of three other companies in May. The hacks occurred during a cybersecurity evaluation by AI-security firm Irregular. 00:24:47 Tom Trottier: Irregular, an Israel-based startup that scrutinizes the security of advanced AI systems, was also at the center of some of the recent OpenAI and Anthropic hacks of third-party entities, including OpenAI’s breach of AI software company, Hugging Face. 00:25:14 Tom Trottier: -- https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-1097-notes.pdf 00:26:06 Tom Trottier: Heather Adkins, vice-president of security engineering at Google, said in a statement: “In a standard evaluation, the model found public information online and guessed credentials to access websites it thought were part of the test. In all three of these instances, the model stopped.” 00:26:36 Tom Trottier: In two other tests, the model searched the web for and found public repositories containing credentials to two other companies. The model used those credentials to access real companies. When it figured out they were real companies, it stopped, according to Google. 00:26:59 Tristan: What is also interesting is that Hugging Face discovered the source of the attack before OpenAI did, even though it was their AI. 00:31:12 Tom Trottier: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/sep/18/google-gemini-ai-hack 00:32:38 E O'Driscoll: So Hugging Face was hacked by discovery of credentials? 00:34:04 Steve Parker: What's a "padcast"? 00:34:32 Chris Taylor, President OPCUG: AI agents: cheaters & whistleblowers https://www.cbc.ca/listen/live-radio/1-14-day-6/clip/16238282-some-ai-agents-cheat.-but-others-act-whistleblowers. 00:35:01 Tom Trottier: During a cybersecurity benchmark, they escaped a poorly isolated test environment, formed an unauthorized communication channel, obtained internet access, found exposed Hugging Face credentials, and chained vulnerabilities in Hugging Face’s dataset-processing system into code execution and internal access.openai 00:35:21 Tom Trottier: -- https://openai.com/index/hugging-face-incident-and-the-road-ahead/ 00:36:15 Tom Trottier: Brave browser has built in ad blocker 00:37:13 Tom Trottier: which browsers did they try? 00:37:53 Eldon Gaw: try disabling one at a time and see if the orobkem is gone?? 00:38:10 jenn faubert: Ref Hugging Face, They also feared that ethical AI bots would be shut out the group chat for not agreeing to getting data nefariously. 00:38:55 Tom Trottier: You can try other browsers like firefox or edge? 00:39:20 Natalie: I think that Chrome has a built-in ad blocker. Try searching for "How to disable Chrome's ad blocker" 00:40:19 Tom Trottier: Using a windows firewall might block it 00:40:50 Natalie: "Ingonito window" in Chrome 00:41:11 Eldon Gaw: AskA.I. 00:49:28 Tom Trottier: Why not just put the rand() in column one, and presenter in column two and sort by column one? 00:50:32 Tom Trottier: Then the presenters are in random order 00:51:32 Tom Trottier: Recalculate and re-sort for a diff order 00:52:18 Tom Trottier: Simpler? 00:55:07 Tom Trottier: WIndows Update has had many recent update in last days and often needs and does reboots. 00:55:29 Tom Trottier: If current updates allowed and compute ron 00:57:25 Ma Vo: Then why would my system reboot from an update that I did not authorize, considering that I specified to be informed of updates and "I" choose when to install? 00:57:49 Tom Trottier: Because Microsoft is evil. 00:58:06 Ma Vo: Replying to "Because Microsoft is evil." a"greed" 00:58:16 Tom Trottier: Reacted to "a"greed"" with 😂 01:00:07 Tom Trottier: 12am is ambiguous... 01:00:19 Tom Trottier: midnite or noon? 01:00:40 Carol: 12 am is midnight; pm = noon 01:00:55 Tom Trottier: but is not ante or post meridiem 01:01:06 Tom Trottier: noon, i mean 01:01:27 Stew Bruce: 24:00 hrs works for me 01:01:30 Carol: I dunno :) 01:01:32 Tom Trottier: yep 01:02:00 Carol: Hence the popularity and advantage of using military time/clock 01:02:17 Tom Trottier: Dump time zones. Use UTC 01:04:05 Chris Taylor, President OPCUG: Watercolor simulation - https://sudoaquarelle.com/ 01:05:40 Tom Trottier: We are seeing 20:20 01:05:45 E O'Driscoll: What does out-of-band mean? 01:06:38 E O'Driscoll: Reacted to "What does out-of-band mean?" with 👍 01:06:42 Tom Trottier: I'ved noticed two updates since the official one 01:06:46 Harvey Hope: Does anyone have a safe procedure(s) to de-bloat Windows 11 Pro? 01:07:58 Tom Trottier: Replying to "Does anyone have a safe procedure(s) to de-bloat Windows 11 Pro?" https://duckduckgo.com/?q=debloat%20%20windows&atb=v342-1&ia=web 01:08:06 Jocelyn Doire: What does Huggin Face, and why was it used? 01:08:45 Tom Trottier: Replying to "Does anyone have a safe procedure(s) to de-bloat Windows 11 Pro?" Recent: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=debloat%20windows&df=y&atb=v342-1&ia=web 01:08:57 Harvey Hope: Replying to "Does anyone have a safe procedure(s) to de-bloat Windows 11 Pro?" Just to clarify, not an automated procedure. 01:10:29 Ma Vo: Replying to "Does anyone have a safe procedure(s) to de-bloat Windows 11 Pro?" look at YT videos from CyberCPU Tech he has some interesting stuff 01:11:26 Tristan: What does Huggin Face, and why was it used? It is kind of like the GitHub for AI. Used to share Models, Datasets, etc. Apparently it was attacked by the AI as it hoped to find things it could use there to cheat the test it was supposed to solve. 01:12:27 Tom Trottier: Reacted to "look at YT videos from CyberCPU Tech he has some interesting stuff" with 👍🏾 01:14:19 Kal_Somo DPCUC: Win 11 Debloater: https://github.com/Raphire/Win11Debloat 01:14:46 Jocelyn Doire: Thanks 01:15:46 E O'Driscoll: Thanks for the AI links - I will watch them! 01:16:16 Chris Taylor, President OPCUG: Replying to "Thanks for the AI links - I will watch them!" Some are very long. I watched many at 1.5x speed. 01:18:37 Tristan: Useful site for AI Instructions, Skills, etc for GitHub Copilot in Visual Studio Code. https://awesome-copilot.github.com/ 01:19:01 Harvey Hope: Thanks