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Give us your material and we can create slides, or we have a PowerPoint template you can download and use: https://opcug.ca/downloads/Q&A-Template.potx Send in questions, shares, etc SuggestionBox@opcug.ca 00:17:42 Chris Taylor: AI tech spreads malware via links in hijacked YouTube channels https://www.androidauthority.com/youtube-video-malware-3298682/ 00:20:30 Tom Trottier: Pressing power button briefly usually gives you a graceful shutdown 00:21:22 micheline: I use Won+X,x,u,u 00:21:56 micheline: I suue Win+ X, X, U, U 00:22:00 Tom Trottier: Sequences of alt-F$ & enter work too... 00:22:36 Tom Trottier: alt-F4 00:23:46 Jeff Dubois: What about WinKey+R (run) and 'shutdown' (no quotes) ? 00:23:56 Harvey Hope: Ctrl-Alt-Del then power button bottom right 00:24:57 Tom Trottier: Best not to test DURIING zoom call.. 00:25:45 Chris Taylor: @Tom - 😁 00:27:06 Timothy: There may be a big Solar Flare hitting us on Friday this week. 00:30:19 Tom Trottier: FYI, Cruise ships do not allow surge protectors; I think they had some fires. UPSs also include surge protectors, as well as voltage stability. It's usually motors in your home which make your power freaky. You can get slow-start motors. 00:30:30 Harvey Hope: Another option for protecting devices is to use a battery backup UPS that ensures consistent power supply 00:30:31 Chris Taylor: That's interesting Bob. I always thought surge suppressors worked by completely dying. 00:31:57 Tom Trottier: Can you sequence surge protectors for better defence? 00:31:59 Chris Taylor: Review of premium surge protectors and extra info: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-surge-protector/ https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-travel-power-strip-with-usb/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wirecutter_(website) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surge_protector 00:35:36 Tom Trottier: You only need surge protectors for electronics 00:35:49 Tom Trottier: not electrics 00:37:07 E O'Driscoll: Thank you Bob! Interesting. 00:37:10 KW-G: Thanks Bob! I was one who wanted more info on this topic. Rural resident... 00:37:25 Tom Trottier: UPSs usually have lead-acid batteries - which need replacing every couple of years 00:38:46 Serge-Érik: Thanks, Tom! Super useful! 00:39:11 Natalie: You mentioned a lifespan - how to knowif it's still effective? 00:39:20 Natalie: Is there a way to know how many joules a protector covers, when it's not written on it? 00:39:30 Bill: Thanks Bob....very en lightning! 00:39:55 Serge-Érik: Lots of money invested in electronics worth protecting properly. 00:42:48 Tom Trottier: Consumer UPSs have a limited battery. Good for PC+monitor+modem for 15 min. Maybe for only CPAP for all nite - check power needs 00:43:41 Tom Trottier: For requirements, check your usage over last few months. 00:44:05 Tom Trottier: for mobile bandwidth 00:44:12 Chris Taylor: Mobile data calculator https://www.confused.com/mobile-phones/mobile-data-calculator 00:44:32 Chris Taylor: Strange EULA clauses https://www.eff.org/wp/dangerous-terms-users-guide-eulas https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/10-ridiculous-eula-clauses-agreed/ 00:44:45 Tom Trottier: Look at the fine print...…………. 00:47:27 Tom Trottier: EULA = if it don't work, or makes errors, TOO BAD 00:52:46 Tom Trottier: AND IT'S ALL FOR FREE!!!! 00:55:05 Tom Trottier: Copyleft = any enhancemsnts m 00:55:13 Tom Trottier: must also be free 00:55:21 Tom Trottier: & open 00:57:12 Chris Taylor: Terms of Service - Didn't ReaD https://tosdr.org 00:57:53 Timothy: Contest rules can be long as well. 00:58:16 Chris Taylor: How to analyze EULAs https://www.groovypost.com/howto/analyze-software-website-service-terms/ http://www.brightfort.com/eulalyzerdl.html 01:02:11 E O'Driscoll: Very funny! 01:02:42 KW-G: Well done Alan and Chris!!! 01:03:31 Tom Trottier: It does give a pretty picture.... 01:04:40 Stew Bruce: I'm hovering but nothing is popping up... 01:04:53 Tom Trottier: Edgy...……. 01:05:32 Lynda Buske: I found the same as Stewart 01:06:11 Tom Trottier: Create a RESTORE POINT before changes 01:08:46 Tom Trottier: But hw do you get then BIng chatGPT? 01:09:31 Tom Trottier: new BING: https://www.bing.com/new?form=MY0291&OCID=MY0291 01:09:41 KW-G: What is the problem with it, if you don't hover over it? 01:09:50 Timothy: Hope that you don't have to do it for each update. 01:10:07 Tom Trottier: "The new Bing is like having a research assistant, personal planner, and creative partner at your side whenever you search the web. With this set of AI-powered features, you can: Ask your actual question. When you ask complex questions, Bing gives you detailed replies. Get an actual answer. Bing looks at search results across the web to offer you a summarized answer. Be creative. When you need inspiration, Bing can help you write poems, stories, or even share ideas for a project. In the chat experience, you can also ask follow-up questions such as, “can you explain that in simpler terms,” or, “give me more options” to get different and even more detailed answers in your search. However, in chat, each conversation will have a limited number of interactions, to keep the interactions grounded in search." 01:10:21 Jeff Dubois: Wouldn't it be nice if there was an easy way to simply uninstall Edge? :-) 01:10:52 Tom Trottier: It may be useful 01:11:01 Tom Trottier: MS chatGPT 01:11:40 bea: when I go over it it just says discover but it does not activate anything 01:12:12 Bill: Thanks everyone. 01:12:45 faber ichelle’s iPad: Thanks everyone 01:14:20 Stew Bruce: Hack Facebook 01:15:18 Timothy: Reddit???? 01:15:29 KW-G: Meetup 01:16:19 KW-G: Kijiji events 01:16:56 faber ichelle’s iPad: Bye See you next week. 01:16:58 Chris Taylor: New members who join by March 31, 2023 will get two years for the price of one ($20)! Want to join the OPCUG? - https://opcug.ca/join-or-renew/ 01:17:37 Timothy: 9 days left for the special. 01:17:47 Tom Trottier: What about 2's? 01:18:06 Chris Taylor: @Tom - ?? 01:19:11 E O'Driscoll: Thanks to all for another interesting session. 01:19:19 Serge-Érik: Thanks! 01:19:19 Edward Morawski: really good meet! 01:19:27 Allison: Thank you!